From: StyleWar (stylewar@cox.net)
Date: Mon May 15 2006 - 21:34:20 EDT
Realizing it's just an opinion you've offered, you need to
normalize that opinion with reality. The scope limits on
pen tests have their origin in the Availability 'head' of the
CIA triumvirate, and the liabilities associated when the
tested object is connected to systems over which the contracted
party has no direct responsibility (for example).
It ain't fraud... it's just common sense.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mr.nasty@ix.netcom.com [mailto:mr.nasty@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 2:33 PM
> To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
> Subject: Re: rules of engagement scope
>
> Rules of Engagement Scope is as absurd as legally shredding
> audit papers. Let me give you an example. Pen-Tests are
> usually performed after a vulnerability test, which is done
> to support a financial audit, which is used to provide
> shareholders definite information regarding the stability of
> an organization. If an organization requires a limited scope
> pen-test without disclosure wouldn't this constitute as a
> lie? Think about this just for a second. If you sign a
> Government form and there are mistakes on the form then you
> can be charged with FRAUD. So if an organization establishes
> 'ROE' that sets a limited scope on the pen-test without
> public disclosure, why is that different than FRAUD?
> National Security? MHO is that pen-tests are as important as
> the certified financial statements used by organizations and
> should have public disclaimers of ROE. When an organization
> is audited with certain constraints that information is or
> should be disclosed within those statements. Information
> that is not disclosed regarding these limitations to me is
> considered FRAUD! But then, that's just my opinion I could
> be monitored, jailed, fined and detained.
>
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