From: Terry Vernon (tvernon24@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Feb 08 2006 - 02:34:16 EST
I agree, back in my not so nice and legal days I had everything commercial
you could think of and used it to do some not so nice and legal things. Some
of it I did find useful enough to pay for while the majority being crap.
This was pre 2000. Like everyone else I don't like buying a car before I
drive it so-to-speak. Sadly not enough vendors offer full featured versions
as trial demos.
-Terry
(I know EVERYONE on this list has at least one cracked thing installed at
home/work ;) )
-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Wright [mailto:cwright@bdosyd.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:07 PM
To: ROB DIXON
Cc: pen-test@securityfocus.com
Subject: RE: Rainbow Tables
Please explain 'WHY' a "malicious attacker" is NOT likely to use
commercial products.
In the real world attackers use "commercial products" all the time -
from script kiddies up. There are numerous Warez and Crack sites
distributing commercial software. There is a clear distinction from
having to legally obtain software and using a cracked version, but this
has nothing to do with use. If you are breaking the law by scanning, it
is not likely that copyright laws will hinder you.
There are far more LC5 installs than have been sold. Further, the
commercial products are oft easier - thus attracting more people to use
them.
Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: ROB DIXON [mailto:RDIXON@workforcewv.org]
Sent: 8 February 2006 5:04
To: stark192@hotmail.com; pen-test@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Rainbow Tables
Hey Tony,
The "others" should be informed that the malicious attacker is most
likely to NOT use "commercial" products.
And that for a true benchmark, maybe use the products that a malicious
attacker would use. Most of which will probably be open source or free
at the least. That is assuming that they are not writing their own
software. ;) I guess I'm asking, how do you justify "not" using free
products?
You can buy pre-computated rainbow tables, but there are different
rainbowtables for different types of hashes. Example: ntlm, ntlmv2, sha1
, md5, etc.
cheers,
New Guy
Robert L. Dixon, CSO
CHFI A+
State of West Virginia's
West VIriginia Office of Techonology
Infrastructure Applications
Netware/GroupWise Administrator
Telephone: (304)-558-5472 ex.4225
Email:rdixon@workforcewv.org
>>> <stark192@hotmail.com> >>>
Hello,
Trying to crack our password list at work, it's a long story, but it has
been put on a higher priority. I've been looking for some good
pre-computed hash tables, like Rainbow tables, that will work with LC5.
Does anyone have a source?
I'd like to use RainbowCrack but others want to stick to commercial
products.
Thanks,
Tony
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