From: NativePenSec (a2zpensec@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jun 24 2005 - 11:26:28 EDT
Ok...my take is that the official EC Council courseware is NOT the one
to use to study for the CEH exam, RIGHT?? If so, what are the
alternatives. I do have a home network ( a linux box, xp, 2k and
cisco router) and have been doing inhouse hacking (if you will). I
downloaded the exam objects and have been learning towards these
objectives.
So....should I use the official EC Council courseware or do an intense
school route??
Thanks!
-FCH
On 6/23/05, Tim Singletary <Tim@active-defense.com> wrote:
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> The Infosec Institute is an authorized EC Council training and
> testing center and they DO NOT use the "stock" EC Council courseware.
>
> But to put it simple Greg was asking for opinions and this has turned
> into a mass marketing campaign. Looking back through this thread
> every person that teaches the CEH has piped in and said "theirs" was
> the best.
>
> Two things, first Gregory was asking for an honest, unbiased,
> reference to the CEH, second these forums were designed to promote
> learning and cohesion among fellow pen-testers, not a forum for mass
> marketing.
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>
>
> Timothy Singletary
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> Tim@active-defense.com
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> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Echemendia [mailto:ralph.echemendia@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:44 AM
> To: glemmon@onealwebster.com
> Cc: pen-test@securityfocus.com
> Subject: Re: CEH training
>
> Hey Gregory,
>
> Being the Information Security Testing Product Line Manager and lead
> instructor / researcher here at Intense School I of course somewhat
> biased, but will try to be honest in my response to this matter.
>
> I always see a great deal of questions regarding our content and the
> CEH. I also used to teach the OPST and the real issue surrounding
> these "hacking" certifications is industry-wide approval and market
> penetration. When it comes to a world-wide cert. that has achieved
> this, it is the CEH.
>
> To clarify, Intense School has lead the growth of the CEH in the US
> more so than any other training provider with a very high pass rate.
> With that said we are also the only authorized testing provider who
> does NOT use the official CEH Curriculum. Why you may ask?
> The answer is simple, quality and hands-on education. The curriculum
> provided by EC-Council for this course (while good for some) is more
> like a book than a class and the nature of the hand-on experience is
> almost non-existant.
>
> Therefor we created a course that met our expectations, which is to
> exceed our students needs.
>
> Our (current) courseware was developed by Clement Dupuis and John
> Nunez. I have to tell you that in my many years and having written,
> seen and taught many "Hacking" classes, John and Clement did an great
> job, with any curriculum in IT updates are mandatory.
>
> This class certainly prepares you for the CEH, and to be honest many
> other similar certification, but is written to do more than just
> that.
>
> We are continually working to offer our students the most "Intense"
> training experience. In fact we are the ONLY ones to my knowledge who
> offer the same quality and hands-on training ONLINE.
> http://www.intenseschool.com/bootcamps/liveonline/default.asp
>
> If ANY of you have any questions, comments or concerns feel free to
> contact me.
>
> Again Thank YOU and have a GREAT class, whichever you choose.
>
> Highest Regards,
>
> Ralph Echemendia, OPST, CEH, ECSA
> Lead Instructor / ISPLM
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> On Jun 21, 2005, at 2:34 PM, glemmon@onealwebster.com wrote:
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am looking at getting some training to start my official journey
> > down = the path as a Security Penetration Tester - and was
> > wondering about the = views on taking the Intense School's CEH
> > boot Camp. Has anyone on/from the list attended their course and
> > have and
> > feedback/recommendations? My = background is predominantly Windows,
> > but I am fairly functional with Linux. I am more interested in
> > online courses right now though only because I am = currently
> > involved in some projects that require me to be available for my
> > office = over the next couple of months. Any constructive feedback
> > is more than =
> > welcome.
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Gregory Lemmon, MCP, Security+
> > I.T. Manager
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