From: Andy Cuff (lists@securitywizardry.com)
Date: Sat Sep 04 2004 - 17:39:28 EDT
Hi Ivan,
http://securitywizardry.com/exploit.htm
Thanks for the response, I agree with you that the functionality of the
three products varies greatly, but it is because of their value, that I
wanted to break them away from being categorised as merely network
vulnerability scanners. Any more granular and I'd have had to create a
separate category for each product. I hope that the current placement will
be seen as a compromise until other products arrive on the scene that may
warrant further distinctions.
Cheers
-andy cuff
Talisker's Computer Security Portal
Computer Network Defence Ltd
http://www.securitywizardry.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Iván Arce" <ivan.arce@coresecurity.com>
To: <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: Network Exploitation Tools
> darbean@cetin.net.cn wrote:
>
> > In-Reply-To: <200408191906.45416@M3T4>
> >
> >
> >
> >Would you please give me any hints for the keyword to search
> >the so-called "fuzzing/exploit frameworks" and "complete pen-test
> >framework" as you mentioned? I am interested and just can't find
> >what you mentioned by google :( As I known, Core Impact had ever
> >declared to be an "Automated Pen-test Framework" in its early
> >version. In the meaning of covering the whole proceeding of pen-test
> >from scanning to exploiting, "exploits framework" should be the main
> >important part of "pen-test framework".
> >
>
> Well, that is at least debateable
>
> Since you mention CORE IMPACT I'd like to point out some differences
> and some concepts around it.
>
> CORE IMPACT covers the entire process of a network penetration-test
> according to our own methodolody. Eveybody has one, right? We call
> ours RPT (Rapid Penetration Test) and we believe it does cover most
> of current best-practices around network pentesting.
>
> But I believe it would be a consensus that as part of a penetration
> test you need to do some sort of information gathering and network
> fingerprinting of the target network, find and exploit vulnerabilities,
> leverage access on compromised systems to escalate privileges and/or
> compromise other systems that were not accesible from the original
> attackers launching pad, produce deliverables (reports) and leave
> everything as it was before you started the penetration test (clean
> up of tools and other stuff you changed/uploaded to compromised
> systems).
>
> Exploits and exploit-frameworks are an important part of that
> entire process, but not the only part and perhaps not even the
> most important one.
>
> In the case of CORE IMPACT, we try to cover and automate the entire
> process, the exploits (local and remote) bundled are used in
> that process and you can use them manually as well.
>
> Also note that an "exploits framework" can be used for things other
> than just penetration testing such as testing IDSes and firewalls
> or weeding out false positives/negatives from vuln. scanners and
> patch deployments.
>
> It might or might not be appropiate to put Metasploit, CANVAS and
> CORE IMPACT on the same category, but they do have huge differences
> in functionality, feature set, usability, support and maturity.
>
> The common denominator is that the three of them ship with exploit
> code.
>
> -ivan
>
>
> ---
> To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
> - Alfred, Lord Tennyson Ulysses,1842
>
> Ivan Arce
> CTO
> CORE SECURITY TECHNOLOGIES
>
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