RE: All tcp ports open?

From: Mike Sues (msues@rigelksecurity.com)
Date: Mon Aug 30 2004 - 08:24:32 EDT


Hello,

just to confirm someone else's posting, the Milkyway
firewall, Blackhole, later named to SecureIT does respond
in this way too. I also saw old versions of the Raptor
firewall respond with all open ports.

Did you try a fragmented SYN scan? I have seen SecureIT
respond differently to the fragmented SYN scan. That is,
all ports are reported closed but rsh is reported open.

This would be a possible way to fingerprint the firewall.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Varun Pitale [mailto:varun.pitale@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 6:36 PM
To: Ben Timby; pen-test@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: All tcp ports open?

I have seen a solaris box which was acting as a load balancer act this
way too, so it might be a loadbalancer thing. All ports seem to be
open, but they do not give any response . If you could post what kinds
of machines they are, it would be good..

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 02:04:08 -0500, Ben Timby <asp@webexc.com> wrote:
> I am not sure what is doing this, but I assume it is a software (or
> some kind of) firewall/hids, can anybody point me in the right
> direction?
>
> I am pen-testing a Windows webserver, and a port scan reveals ALL tcp
> ports open. hping also confirms that a SA is returned for any S
> packets sent to any port I try. I can connect via netcat any of the
> ports, and send data, but nothing is returned. In order to verify
> services, I am required to connect and check for a banner or send
> appropriate protocol commands to elicit a response.
>
> Has anyone seen this, or have any idea of what this is?
>
> Thanks.
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