From: Al Smolkin (UnODir@hotpop.com)
Date: Wed Aug 25 2004 - 12:50:33 EDT
You do mean EC-Council, right?
Sorry about the spelling joke.
Now, here's what I think.
The cert is a joke, mainly because the test administered was not so much about the pen testing, but rather about a general knowledge of the stuff. As a
matter of fact, I just ran into a guy from VeriSign, who works on IDS side, who took the exam and passed without a hitch, and he never took a course.
However, if you are serious about learning (that is, if you truly are fascinated by the world of security), then I wholeheartedly recommend Intense School's
CEH course for one reason only,- the instructors.
The two guys who taught the course when I went there were instrumental in designing the CEH cert, and carry a wealth of knowledge.
Jon Nunes and Clement Dupuis.
Clement runs a site called cccure.org
I was blown away by the amount of knowledge pounded into me over the week (it was a bootcamp, really). And I was really disappointed that the exam
didn't really reflect the course as a whole.
My $0.02
Al Smolkin
CEH, CCNA
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:13:58 -0500, Chris Griffin wrote:
>List,
>
>I was looking to see if anyone had any exposure to ec counsil's CEH course.
>I have heard mixed views on the ec counsil, but nothing about their courses.
>I dont really care about getting a certification, but I wouldnt mind
>getting one also.
>My main concern is, learning quality stuff that I can put to use in a
>security career.
>
>As im sure everyone feels the same, I Dont want to drop my money on
>something that looks good,
>but really isnt going to help build knowledge.
>
>for a quick reference, here is a link to the exam/course I found
>
>http://www.mile2.com/certified_ethical_hacker_training_v3.html
>
>and http://www.eccouncil.org/CEH.htm
>
>Does anyone know if this is quality stuff, or is there something out
>there better?
>(A major factor to me looking at this was, I can find a class local so I
>dont have to travel)
>
>Regards,
>Chris
>
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