From: xelerated (xelerated@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Aug 29 2006 - 15:23:07 EDT
That could work in some situations, but the problem is putting it in
the right spot to catch
the traffic. its a milti layer firewall network, But there are IDS's,
i know they can log the payloads, so just depending on which segment i
want, i pick that IDS to watch.
On 8/29/06, Clemens, Dan <Dan.Clemens@healthsouth.com> wrote:
> What about straight up tcpdump?
> BTW, you won't fall into any legal mumbo shumbo performing analysis on
> traffic.
>
> -Daniel Clemens
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hirsch, Adam [mailto:Adam.Hirsch@dresdnerkleinwort.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:53 PM
> To: xelerated
> Cc: pen-test@securityfocus.com
> Subject: RE: Packet Payload
>
>
> Oops, I gave the wrong name of the vendor that sells that traffic
> anomaly products (with Layer 7 inspection). Correct company is Mazu
> Networks not Reconnex.
>
> Adam
>
>
> On 8/29/06, Hirsch, Adam <Adam.Hirsch@dresdnerkleinwort.com> wrote:
> > What you seem to be looking for already exists. A traffic anomaly
> > analyzer that is able to inspect traffic up to Layer 7. Check out a
> > product called Reconnex. This may do what you are looking for..
> >
> > You may run in to confidentiality and privacy issues if you start
> > capturing actual packet payloads. You may want to talk to your legal
> > and HR departments before doing this.
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xelerated [mailto:xelerated@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:32 AM
> > To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
> > Subject: Packet Payload
> >
> > Im posrting this to the pen-test group, rather than firewall or IDS
> > because it covers many areas.
> >
> > Id like to see what the pro's think about capturing and storing packet
>
> > payloads from firewalls, ids, etc... everything rather than just
> > loggin the incidents.
> >
> > Im trying to explain to my management how useful the payloads could be
>
> > if we were ever to really need them, say from a forensics point of
> view.
> > To give another example, one time I was seeing lots of firewall drops,
>
> > I could tell what ports, src and dest. but no packet data. To everyone
>
> > involved it looked like a worm trying to spread.
> > Well in the end it wasnt, infact is was something that was nice to
> > know about, but it was not hostile traffic. But if I had been able to
> > see the payloads i could have seen the data request and known from the
>
> > start what it was, or was not.
> >
> > What would be really great, is a whitepaper covering this, or enough
> > info/facts that I could throw one together.
> >
> > thanks!
> > Chris
> >
> > C|EH, CISSP
> >
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