Re: [lists] RE: Hacker Stories, Certs, vs Projects - Was Re: Technitium MAC Address Changer

From: Frank (francois.y@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Aug 02 2006 - 15:57:08 EDT


The SANS tests are not that bad. But yes, you will need some experience
and carefully read the material they give you in order to pass them.
You can take the training without any experiences, but you might not
pass the test. As all of the questions are not directly from the books.
Before I take the one of their tests, I reread all the booklets and
listen to all the audio files. and still I get few wrong.

Marc Munk wrote:
> I guess it did'nt come out as i wanted it to. As far as I know Sans
> doesn't require experience. But I'm quite sure it would be preferred if
> you have it. If not for else then for your own sake.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Curt Purdy [mailto:purdy@tecman.com]
> Sent: 1. august 2006 00:47
> To: 'Marc Munk'; ajindal@alumni.cmu.edu; pen-test@securityfocus.com
> Subject: RE: [lists] RE: Hacker Stories, Certs, vs Projects - Was Re:
> Technitium MAC Address Changer
>
> Marc Munk wrote:
>
>> I'm facing the same problem as you do. I'v been looking into
>> difference
>> sans certifications because they don't require experience but they do
>> give some hands on lab work at the training. Not to mention the
>> possibility to take a gold level cert. by writing an assignment. But I
>> don't have any security certs or experience in the area.
>>
> <snip>
>
> I disagree with your statement about SANS GIAC certs not requiring
> experience. I have a lot of grey hair and passed the CISSP on first try
> in
> half the allotted six hours, but don't believe I could have passed the
> GIACs
> without the training. I refer to CISSP as a river a mile wide but six
> inches deep. The GIACs are 100 yards wide and 50 feet deep.
>
>
> Curt Purdy CISSP, GSNA, GSEC, CNE, MCSE+I, CCDA
> Information Security Officer
> Information Systems Security
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