From: Paul Barrette (PaulBarrette@Videotron.Ca)
Date: Thu Jun 08 2006 - 19:19:12 EDT
I totally agree the the last statement.
Full port scan + a banner grab... you then know it's an SSH server...
whatever the port it is runningon
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "David M. Zendzian" <dmz@dmzs.com>
To: "Michael Sierchio" <kudzu@tenebras.com>; <pen-test@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: Some new SSH exploit script?
I think the point being made was that by moving the port that standard
ssh/port 22 brute forcers and scanners would not hit you unless they did a
full scan which I would expect a real hacker or targeted attack to do.
So yes in the sence of 'real' security it doesn't gain you anything. However
in the sense of annoying script kiddies or bot bets it saves you the
harrassment factor.
dmz
-----Original Message-----
From: "Michael Sierchio" <kudzu@tenebras.com>
To: pen-test@securityfocus.com
Sent: 6/6/06 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: Some new SSH exploit script?
S, his bare face hanging out, wrote:
> Since when is changing the default configuration of a program, especially
> one that is open to the internet and has a wide history of being
exploited
> in many ways, a "bid for security through obscurity" ??
Running a service on a non-standard port yields zero increase in
security. That was my point.
> I guess upgrading that kernel and all the other security modifications
you
> make to lock down your box are also bids for security through obscurity,
god
> forbid you deviate from the default vanilla configuration in order to
better
> secure a service.
> How many times have you been hacked now ?
I usually don't engage with ad hominems, but I'll attribute your tone
to a lapse in judgement. Prudent maintenance and hardening against
common vulnerabilities are of course necessary.
We've never been hacked, thanks. We use authenticated firewall traversal
for any non-public services. Public services are hosted in a DMZ.
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